So when I think about clean tech investing, when I think of solid oxide fuel cells or new thin film semiconductors or solar concentrators or something else, I'm getting a feeling that all those words you just used for the last two minutes doesn't mean that. Jesse Fink: Right. Steve Blank: So what is it that goes on in Connecticut that makes you an investor in this space? So what is an example of the types of difference between East Coast clean tech investing or low carbon investing and what's going on here in the Valley? Jesse Fink: Well, the company that we formed two years ago with my MissionPoint Capital partners, Mark Cirilli and Mark Schwartz, is a private investment firm, and we are focused on what we call a transition to a low-carbon economy. We believe that the transition will come from clean energy and environmental finance, and it is important to have both of those together. Here, there is a tremendous effort, and it's fantastic towards clean energy technologies. Back east, there's a lot with environmental finance. Environmental finance is trading carbon credits, environmental commodities. We as a firm look at the intersection of those two. So an example is there's a lot of discussion right now regarding a U.S. Carbon and Climate Bill which, hopefully, will get passed this year. It's called Warner-Lieberman if you followed in the press. There's discussion about a cap-and-trade mechanism which is very important. Putting a cap on carbon and then allowing the markets to trade underneath that. That requires a tremendous amount of a financial infrastructure to enable companies to trade their carbon underneath that. So we looked at the whole financial transaction that has to happen, and we will invest through our firm, invest in companies that are involved in setting up the markets so that other companies will have the ability to trade carbon. That, to us, is as important as investing in solar which we have some investments in sol...